Thursday, November 02, 2006
O, How I Hate Stanfraud, Let Me Count The Ways
... For hijacking someone else's reputation. Why don't you just try being the Stanford of the West?
For the false elitism displayed by Stanford people based on a fraudulent reputation.
Grade inflation. Does everyone graduate with a 4.0 GPA?
For proposing that freshman classes only give out Pass/No Pass marks instead of grades, just so that freshmen don't ruin their GPA.
"The hardest thing about Stanford is getting in." - quote from a former student.
"I dropped a class, without a mark on my transcript, after finding out what I received on my Final Exam." - also a quote from a former student.
No academic credibility. (See quotes above)
For changing its nickname from the Indians to the Cardinal.
Cardinal does not refer to a bird, or any other object for that matter. It is a color. How pansy is that? Way to go out of your way to not be offensive.
The stupid dancing tree. If dancing is what you call that.
For having a band that has just as fraudulent a reputation as the university itself. The Stanford band has not been funny, or even creative, for a decade.
And when they used to be creative, they would do things like forming the shape of a penis, play 70's-style porno music, and proceed to make love to the stadium tunnel. That's just disgusting.
For sucking at football since Pop Warner left.
For racking up NCAA championships in every possible little known sport. And bragging about it.
If underwater basket weaving was a NCAA-sanctioned sport, Stanford would recruit scholarship "athletes" for it.
For being elitist in football without ever being in the Football Elite. Pop Warner notwithstanding.
The embodiment of Stanfraud football elitism is John Elway and Bill Walsh. I still can't stand those guys, although everybody softened on the John "Mr. Ed"way remarks when he got old and decrepit and had already lost 3 SuperBowls.
Probably the most annoying Stanford coach though was John Ralston. Although he was a miserable 2-8 lifetime against USC, after every loss you count on him to put down USC Football, its players, the school, the students, and the alumni.
After one such post-loss tirade by Ralston, legendary USC coach John McKay was asked to comment on Ralston's vitriolic and elitist comments. McKay replied, "I don't trade hee-haws with a Jackass."
McKay's hatred of Stanfraud ran deep, and deservedly so. He was once quoted as saying that he wanted to beat Stanford 100-0. The next year before the game, the Stanford student newspaper ran a cartoon depicting John McKay looking at the scoreboard, which read USC -92 Stanford-0, with McKay saying, "If we score, we're going for 2!"
The only good thing about Stanfraud is that this away game allows myself and many fellow USC fans to take a nice trip up to the Bay Area, before watching their pathetic excuse for a football team be beaten into submission. Good times, baby, good times.
P.S. Credit goes to scmindstorm/ElephantAndCross for coining the term "Stanfraud".
For the false elitism displayed by Stanford people based on a fraudulent reputation.
Grade inflation. Does everyone graduate with a 4.0 GPA?
For proposing that freshman classes only give out Pass/No Pass marks instead of grades, just so that freshmen don't ruin their GPA.
"The hardest thing about Stanford is getting in." - quote from a former student.
"I dropped a class, without a mark on my transcript, after finding out what I received on my Final Exam." - also a quote from a former student.
No academic credibility. (See quotes above)
For changing its nickname from the Indians to the Cardinal.
Cardinal does not refer to a bird, or any other object for that matter. It is a color. How pansy is that? Way to go out of your way to not be offensive.
The stupid dancing tree. If dancing is what you call that.
For having a band that has just as fraudulent a reputation as the university itself. The Stanford band has not been funny, or even creative, for a decade.
And when they used to be creative, they would do things like forming the shape of a penis, play 70's-style porno music, and proceed to make love to the stadium tunnel. That's just disgusting.
For sucking at football since Pop Warner left.
For racking up NCAA championships in every possible little known sport. And bragging about it.
If underwater basket weaving was a NCAA-sanctioned sport, Stanford would recruit scholarship "athletes" for it.
For being elitist in football without ever being in the Football Elite. Pop Warner notwithstanding.
The embodiment of Stanfraud football elitism is John Elway and Bill Walsh. I still can't stand those guys, although everybody softened on the John "Mr. Ed"way remarks when he got old and decrepit and had already lost 3 SuperBowls.
Probably the most annoying Stanford coach though was John Ralston. Although he was a miserable 2-8 lifetime against USC, after every loss you count on him to put down USC Football, its players, the school, the students, and the alumni.
After one such post-loss tirade by Ralston, legendary USC coach John McKay was asked to comment on Ralston's vitriolic and elitist comments. McKay replied, "I don't trade hee-haws with a Jackass."
McKay's hatred of Stanfraud ran deep, and deservedly so. He was once quoted as saying that he wanted to beat Stanford 100-0. The next year before the game, the Stanford student newspaper ran a cartoon depicting John McKay looking at the scoreboard, which read USC -92 Stanford-0, with McKay saying, "If we score, we're going for 2!"
The only good thing about Stanfraud is that this away game allows myself and many fellow USC fans to take a nice trip up to the Bay Area, before watching their pathetic excuse for a football team be beaten into submission. Good times, baby, good times.
P.S. Credit goes to scmindstorm/ElephantAndCross for coining the term "Stanfraud".
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Nothing you said about Stanford is universally, or even slightly, true. Way to use that educated brain of yours. Just because you heard it from a friend's friend, doesn't make it a fact. That's called hearsay, and society has decided it's not a good form of information sharing - inadmissible in court! But hey, points for the effort. Keep milking that stanford jealousy well into your 40's.
# posted by 
: 1:15 AM
: 1:15 AM
Just be happy that somebody is paying attention to Stanford. Your whole team could light themselves on fire and nobody would care.
Yes, but your comments were directed at the school. Our whole school could not light itself on fire without people caring. PS, Hella washington cares! Even if we suck, we still got a W baby!
# posted by : 2:14 AM
: 2:14 AM
I'll be the first to agree that the football team is pathetic this year but the rest of your post isn't persuasive (not to mention factually incorrect).
Stanford doesn't have academic credibly and U$C does? Please tell me you're joking.
I am always amused that USC pins its identity on a football team.
Stanford doesn't have academic credibly and U$C does? Please tell me you're joking.
I am always amused that USC pins its identity on a football team.
# posted by : 3:27 PM
: 3:27 PM
First of all, what is not factually correct?
Secondly, every university uses sports to advertise themselves. So I found it hypocritical that Stanford will go out of its way to win every single minor NCAA championship it can, yet criticize USC for "pining its identity on a football team".
Secondly, every university uses sports to advertise themselves. So I found it hypocritical that Stanford will go out of its way to win every single minor NCAA championship it can, yet criticize USC for "pining its identity on a football team".
2nd point first: Not every university uses sports to advertise themselves. None of the ivies do, and there are hundreds of liberal arts and engineering colleges that don't. Stanford's athletic success is a by-line at best. NCAA championships aren't the identity of the school - nationally, football is the identity of USC.
1st point: here is a list of claims you made that are based on hearsay or opinion, and not fact:
1) grade inflation. No, there is no evidence that states that everyone graduates with a 4.0. that number is probably closer to 3.0-3.3, lower in the engineering disciplines.
2) Freshman classes don't give out pass/no pass marks. Many classes give the option, but many majors won't recognize those units as counting towards graduation.
3) "The hardest thing..." for me, was graduating. That's one person's opinion, and they were probably a sociology major.
4) The drop period ends 3 weeks into the quarter. You can't take your final and drop a class. That statement is factually incorrect.
5) in 2001, stanford won the pac-10 and went to the rose bowl. we may have lost, but that was a pretty good football team. The few years before that, we also had sustained winning record success in the pac-10. and that was after pop warner.
6) your other comments re: the football team are all opinion and not factual. Use your college education to realize the difference between fact and opinion.
1st point: here is a list of claims you made that are based on hearsay or opinion, and not fact:
1) grade inflation. No, there is no evidence that states that everyone graduates with a 4.0. that number is probably closer to 3.0-3.3, lower in the engineering disciplines.
2) Freshman classes don't give out pass/no pass marks. Many classes give the option, but many majors won't recognize those units as counting towards graduation.
3) "The hardest thing..." for me, was graduating. That's one person's opinion, and they were probably a sociology major.
4) The drop period ends 3 weeks into the quarter. You can't take your final and drop a class. That statement is factually incorrect.
5) in 2001, stanford won the pac-10 and went to the rose bowl. we may have lost, but that was a pretty good football team. The few years before that, we also had sustained winning record success in the pac-10. and that was after pop warner.
6) your other comments re: the football team are all opinion and not factual. Use your college education to realize the difference between fact and opinion.
# posted by : 12:17 PM
: 12:17 PM
New question: How did you find my blog anyways?
Here are my rebuttals:
2nd point; Stanford pimps its lame minor sport NCAA championships. There is no way to get around it. Trying to diminish it, yet take USC to task for its football heritage is hypocrisy.
1st Point; #1 Grade inflation is a reality in every level of education. And if I wasn't so lazy, or if I cared about Stanford more, I would look up the GPA statistics for Stanford graduates.
#2 You don't know much about your own school. Stanford did attempt a few years back to make all freshman classes Pass/Fail, and it was due to GPA concerns. I don't know exactly why they dropped their plan, but I believe it was because of accreditation standard requirements.
#3 Don't remember his degree.
#4 "You can't take your final and drop a class. That statement is factually incorrect." - Yet, it did happen. My source is a now a minister, he doesn't lie, and said it in front of many witnesses.
#5 2001 was down year for Pac10 football, and Stanford somehow went to the Rose Bowl with 2 conference losses. An overall 9-3 record is not something to hang your hat on.
#6 "Use your college education to realize the difference between fact and opinion." - My opinions have a factual basis.
Here are my rebuttals:
2nd point; Stanford pimps its lame minor sport NCAA championships. There is no way to get around it. Trying to diminish it, yet take USC to task for its football heritage is hypocrisy.
1st Point; #1 Grade inflation is a reality in every level of education. And if I wasn't so lazy, or if I cared about Stanford more, I would look up the GPA statistics for Stanford graduates.
#2 You don't know much about your own school. Stanford did attempt a few years back to make all freshman classes Pass/Fail, and it was due to GPA concerns. I don't know exactly why they dropped their plan, but I believe it was because of accreditation standard requirements.
#3 Don't remember his degree.
#4 "You can't take your final and drop a class. That statement is factually incorrect." - Yet, it did happen. My source is a now a minister, he doesn't lie, and said it in front of many witnesses.
#5 2001 was down year for Pac10 football, and Stanford somehow went to the Rose Bowl with 2 conference losses. An overall 9-3 record is not something to hang your hat on.
#6 "Use your college education to realize the difference between fact and opinion." - My opinions have a factual basis.
You wrote a post about my alma mater. are you surprised a stanford fan found it? I suppose you'd rather write just for people who pat you on the back for writing such unfounded tripe.
1. Stanford is proud of its championships (even the "lame minor" sports), but it doesn't define itself on that success. USC and others define themselves through football success.
2. One person's experience 10+ years ago isn't reflective of the school today. There is a drop policy in place. Your original article was worded as if anyone today could easily drop a class in order to escape a bad grade. This is untrue, regardless of your minister friend's experience in the past.
3. I know more about my school than you do. I'd be willing to bet my life on it, based on your post. My not knowing about a proposed and un-instituted policy from 5+ years ago doesn't make me ignorant. It means you're making a big deal about a small past event. I'm sure I could find some embarrassing policy idea from USC's history and parade it around like it means something, but I think that's a meaningless thing to do.
4. If grade inflation is universal, you can't criticize Stanford for it (especially if you have no facts to back your claim). Once again, your original post is wrong, and you defend it by saying, "whatever, I don't care enough to make a factual statement."
5. your factually based opinions are still opinions. I'd venture to say most opinions are based on some fact, yet they remain opinions nonetheless. "Factual" basis lends you absolutely no credibility.
1. Stanford is proud of its championships (even the "lame minor" sports), but it doesn't define itself on that success. USC and others define themselves through football success.
2. One person's experience 10+ years ago isn't reflective of the school today. There is a drop policy in place. Your original article was worded as if anyone today could easily drop a class in order to escape a bad grade. This is untrue, regardless of your minister friend's experience in the past.
3. I know more about my school than you do. I'd be willing to bet my life on it, based on your post. My not knowing about a proposed and un-instituted policy from 5+ years ago doesn't make me ignorant. It means you're making a big deal about a small past event. I'm sure I could find some embarrassing policy idea from USC's history and parade it around like it means something, but I think that's a meaningless thing to do.
4. If grade inflation is universal, you can't criticize Stanford for it (especially if you have no facts to back your claim). Once again, your original post is wrong, and you defend it by saying, "whatever, I don't care enough to make a factual statement."
5. your factually based opinions are still opinions. I'd venture to say most opinions are based on some fact, yet they remain opinions nonetheless. "Factual" basis lends you absolutely no credibility.
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: 9:40 PM
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